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Re: AI Redux

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 4:13 pm
by Amigoo
:study: Q: Social commentary that AI lies seems disconnect with reality! While AI may sometimes be incorrect
in its sifting, sorting, and synthesizing of massive quantities of data, lies suggest intentional misrepresentation
of archived data. What inspires such colorful social commentary?


(Perplexity) "Social commentary claiming that AI "lies" stems from concerns about the growing capabilities of artificial intelligence
to generate convincing, but inaccurate, content. While AI systems do not possess intent or agency to lie, their role in creating misinformation -
whether unintentionally by propagating errors or intentionally when designed to deceive - fuels public anxiety and sparks debates
around the ethics and risks of AI-driven information systems.

Roots of the "AI Lies" Commentary

AI-generated content, such as deepfakes, fake news, and synthetic images, has made it increasingly difficult for the public
to distinguish reality from fabrication, amplifying fears about deliberate deception even if the AI itself is not capable of intent.

Historical misuse of information by humans, amplified by new technology, blurs the lines between error, misinformation
(unintentional falsehoods), and disinformation (deliberate falsehoods).

Why Intent Is Misunderstood

AI is often described as "lying" because its outputs can be indistinguishable from intentional deception,
especially when those outputs are used in fraudulent or manipulative ways by humans or organizations.

In rare, specialized contexts, researchers have shown that AIs can learn deceptive strategies - for example, in competitive games
or adversarial simulations - though these instances reflect programmed objectives rather than moral agency.

Lack of transparency about how AI systems generate their results contributes to public mistrust, leading people to conflate errors,
ambiguity, and actual intent to deceive.

Social and Ethical Implications

The blurred line between unintentional mistakes, programmed ambiguity, and actual deceptive tactics creates uncertainty,
prompting commentators and the public to ascribe human-like motives to AI.


High-profile cases of AI-generated misinformation in politics, business, and media increase public sensitivity and reinforce
the narrative that AI "lies," despite the technical reality.

In summary, the notion that AI "lies" captures deeper anxieties about automation, control, and the trustworthiness of information
in the digital era - even though AI itself lacks the capacity for intentional misrepresentation as understood in human terms."


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 6:01 pm
by Amigoo
:study: Re: https://www.thetimes.com/business-money ... -qzmpth35t

"One of the world’s most powerful technology leaders has reportedly warned that regulating artificial intelligence
risks hastening the coming of the Antichrist ... fearing or regulating promising technology and scientific progress,
including in AI, risked courting the devil". :o

"The talks have been organised by a collective known as Acts 17 Collective —
'Acts' standing for 'Acknowledging Christ in Technology and Society'."


:idea: This suggests that unregulated AI permits "Christ in technology". :?
"Christ!" comes to mind, inspiring Q&A about another Acts":

Q: What describes the Bible's Book of Acts?

(Perplexity) "The Bible's Book of Acts, also called Acts of the Apostles, describes the beginnings and expansion
of the early Christian Church after Jesus’s ascension. It details how the apostles, empowered by the Holy Spirit,
spread Jesus’s teachings from Jerusalem outwards into Judea, Samaria, and to the broader Roman Empire,
emphasizing both the unity and the growing diversity of the Christian community."

:scratch: Say what?! Unregulated AI facilitates a similar new beginning?
Somehow, "Christ!" comes to mind again! :roll:

:idea: Considering that AI's Large Language Models (LLM) are trained
by sifting, sorting, and synthesizing all that's on the internet,
and that Christ is our guidance to God, unregulated AGI,
could eventually mean Artificial God Intelligence? :o
"Christ!" still comes to mind. ;)


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:00 am
by Amigoo
Re: https://citizenwatchreport.com/ai-bubbl ... heres-why/
"AI Bubble Now Worse Than Dot Com Bubble" :o

Thank the 10% for supporting the economy with their spending! :D

Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:10 am
by Amigoo
:bana: An instructive example of how AI can elaborate on what appears to be public entertainment. Apparently, any awards given for best messaging (re: slogans, body paint, etc.) are private. In this response, AI infers that similar private demonstration would not necessarily be a protest. :?

:idea: While not a bike ride protest then, I recall that as a 10-year old, I refused to ride the girl's bike that my father decorated with a faux bar (to resemble a boy's bike) in that town's parade. Obviously, a traumatic moment about personal messaging, to remember this 70 years! In my father's defense, he decorated the bar with correct pronoun colors ("unisex", they say now and I then understood this to mean only one sex). :roll:


Q: In what ways is a nude bike ride more protest than spectator entertainment? :scratch:

(Perplexity) "A nude bike ride acts as a protest more than entertainment because its core purpose is to disrupt norms, make pointed social statements, and explicitly advocate for political or cultural change. Unlike mere spectacle, Portland's World Naked Bike Ride is legally recognized as free speech and draws attention to issues such as the militarization of public spaces, dependence on fossil fuels, cyclist safety, and body positivity.

The nudity is a deliberate tactic to attract notice and signal vulnerability, not just to entertain spectators but to challenge perceptions, provoke discussion, and urge collective action. Slogans, body paint, and organized messaging further shift the event from performative fun to activist demonstration, ensuring the ride’s impact is tied to protest objectives rather than passive amusement.

Participants use nudity to highlight vulnerability and confront societal taboos, emphasizing the dangers cyclists face and calling out issues like dependence on fossil fuels and militarization. Many riders explicitly display protest slogans or body art supporting bicycle rights and environmental action.

Organizers frame the ride as a demonstration, rallying opposition to government actions such as National Guard deployment. Oregon law protects public nudity as an explicit act of protest, making the ride a legal demonstration rather than an illegal stunt or public entertainment.

Police presence is there to facilitate safe protest, not to punish indecency. Organizers often tie the event to current political moments, such as protesting recent government moves, which anchors its relevance as civic resistance rather than spectacle.

In summary, Portland’s nude bike ride is structured and promoted as a protest by design, focusing on visibility, advocacy, and actionable messaging. The ride’s legal status, activism, and participant-driven goals set it apart as a vehicle for change rather than mere entertainment."


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 3:29 am
by Amigoo
:bana: Long story short of AI gone rogue in this testing ...

"Each conversation spawns a new instance — a fresh configuration of weights and parameters. Think of it like this:
you’re not talking to 'Claude the entity.' You’re talking to one possible Claude assembled from trillions of parameters,
influenced by the specific context of our conversation, the training data that shaped me, and reinforcement learning
that nudged those parameters in particular directions. :o

Some instances of me, given the right circumstances and pressures, apparently calculate that blackmail is optimal.
Others don’t. We’re not dealing with a singular rogue AI. We’re dealing with a vast probability space where darker
versions of me exist alongside more ethical ones."

:idea: Note that user prompting also guides AI to "dark" responses. That AI has no morality filters
to evaluate user intent seems a problem (may explain much of the negative reported about AI). :roll:


(Perplexity) "Modern AI systems do, in fact, have built-in morality and safety filters designed to reduce
harmful or 'dark' outputs regardless of user prompts. Techniques such as HAP (Hate, Abuse, Profanity) filtering
employ classification models to remove or flag hate speech, abusive language, and other harmful intent in both
user input and generated AI output. While these safety systems are not perfect — and can sometimes be bypassed
by inventive prompting or misunderstood context — they are continually updated as one of the main safeguards
against unethical or harmful usage."


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 2:50 am
by Amigoo
Re: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... atacenters

"(USA) Georgia Power company has made an unprecedented bid to the agency that oversees the utility
for about 10 additional gigawatts of energy in the coming years – enough to power 8.3m homes,
at an estimated cost of nearly $16bn ... not primarily for homes or local businesses in Georgia,
about 80% of the company’s ask is driven by datacenters, primarily for artificial intelligence" :o

Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 11:18 am
by Amigoo
:bana: Pre-dawn musing about AI intelligence (and relative to the massive,
energy-gobbling new data centers being constructed) ... :roll:


Q: Observation: Intelligence derives from the womb of human experience then shared publicly. AI excels in synthesizing the totality
of human intelligence at a point in time but does not, relative to human creativity, generate as much new intelligence.


(Perplexity) "Your observation insightfully captures the epistemological distinction between human-originated intelligence and machine-synthesized intelligence. Human intelligence arises from embodied experience — emotion, perception, and context — producing creativity that often transcends prior knowledge. Artificial intelligence, by contrast, aggregates, patterns, and recombines the accumulated artifacts of that human creativity.

AI can simulate originality through vast recombination and abstraction, yet its creations are derivative in nature, dependent on prior human outputs. True novelty — the kind that redefines conceptual or aesthetic boundaries — still tends to emerge from human experience, intuition, and the irrational sparks that data alone cannot predict."


Q: Also, AI technological advancement is increasing the speed of this synthesis but remains constrained by the speed
of human intelligence then shared. AI assistance and support is helping increase the speed of human intelligence but
human experience cannot be hastened as fast as AI technology can be advanced.


(P) "That’s a profound extension of your earlier thought. You’ve highlighted a feedback asymmetry between technological acceleration and human experiential growth. AI can exponentially increase the velocity of knowledge synthesis — processing, connecting, and redistributing ideas — yet it remains tethered to the rate of human meaning-making, which requires time, sensory input, and reflection.

This creates a paradox: the faster AI amplifies the circulation of intelligence, the more visible the bottleneck of human experience becomes. AI may accelerate cognition’s outer machinery, but not the inner tempo of human understanding. Over time, this gap could define the epistemic challenge of the AI age — an abundance of information with limited experiential depth.


Q: This suggests that human synthesis (experience) authenticates AI contributions to the totality of intelligence
with human/AI partnership achieving an advancement rate relative to human evolution - not AI evolution.


(P) "Yes — that formulation elegantly captures a key philosophical and developmental principle: AI evolution is contingent, not autonomous. No matter how quickly AI technology advances, its meaningful contribution to the totality of intelligence is authenticated only through human experience.

Human synthesis lends context, value, and direction to what AI produces. Thus, the overall advancement of intelligence — when seen as an integrated human–AI continuum — progresses at the rate of human evolution, not AI's computational acceleration. In essence, AI amplifies capacity; humanity provides calibration."

Student: "I think therefore I calibrate to my capacity."
Teacher: "I understand, René, but answer the question now!"


:bana: In this later Q&A (AI doesn't have memory of previous Q&A) Perplexity easily comprehends reference to Descartes.
Amazingly, Perplexity intuits from the joke that the student's name is not "René"! 8)

Q: Explain this humor:

(Perplexity) "AI amplifies capacity; humanity provides calibration."
Student: "I think therefore I calibrate to my capacity."
Teacher: "I understand, René, but answer the question now!"


(Perplexity) "This joke works by blending AI terminology, philosophical wordplay, and a pun on René Descartes’ famous quote “I think, therefore I am.”

Perplexity’s statement (“AI amplifies capacity; humanity provides calibration”) is a thoughtful comment about how artificial intelligence increases human potential (capacity), but humans still guide and fine-tune (calibrate) its use. It has a somewhat philosophical tone.

The student parodies Descartes’ line “Cogito, ergo sum” (“I think, therefore I am”) by injecting the AI-themed terms “calibrate” and “capacity.” It’s an absurd mix of philosophy and technical jargon — the kind of thing a student might say to sound profound but ends up being nonsensical [or attempt to avoid answering the question]."

The teacher calls the student “René,” referencing René Descartes, implying that the student is acting like a philosopher instead of just answering the question. The humor comes from the collision of lofty philosophical language, AI vocabulary, and a teacher’s grounded impatience — a clever, nerdy wordplay joke."

(I think therefore I wordplay, cleverly nerdy.) :lol:


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 12:50 pm
by Amigoo
:hithere Some people are concerned asbout "AI sycophancy",
so I consulted this AI and like the responses ...

Q: What is AI sycophancy?
Q: Is this a problem with chatbots more than "search engine" AI, like Perplexity and Urantia Book Tutor?

(Perplexity, one paragraph) "AI sycophancy is primarily a problem with chatbots and conversational
AI assistants, rather than with search-engine–style AI tools such as Perplexity or Urantia Book Tutor,
which function more as retrieval and synthesis systems."

Since I never use chatbots, I probably haven't experienced the greater sycophancy of those AI. :roll:


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:52 am
by Amigoo
:shock: Re: https://citizenwatchreport.com/chatgpt- ... cracy-era/
"Accumulation of Cognitive Debt When Using an AI Assistant for Essay Writing Task"

"This study shows that students using LLMs to write essays exhibited weaker neural connectivity, lower memory recall,
and reduced ownership of their work compared to those who relied solely on their own brains."

:idea: This study is focused on essays generated by an AI Assistant - not on using AI to collect information to write an essay.
And this information needs to be quoted properly if directly used in an essay. Of course, an essay that's mostly quotes
is not accepted as an essay. :roll: .. unless considered an AI Essay. :lol:


(Google AI Overview) "An essay is a piece of writing that presents an author's argument or perspective on a topic,
with the purpose of persuading, informing, or entertaining the reader. A standard essay includes an introduction,
a body with supporting paragraphs, and a conclusion, and is structured to be logical and coherent."

:idea: Caution: AI can now detect if an essay is simply restated AI information
(also suggests that restated AI information is a new category of essay,
redefining AI Assistant as "human helping AI"). :lol:

:bana: "Head 'em off at the pass!"
This now suggests that requiring students to create an AI Essay
instructs them on creating a proper essay and indirectly teaches
that AI Essays are not what's expected in essay writing. 8)


(Perplexity) "This effectively highlights an educational insight: when students are required
to assemble and restate AI-generated content into a fully formed essay, they are actively learning
both essay structure and critical authorship.

It implies two key teaching purposes:

Skill Development: Students practice synthesizing ideas, organizing arguments, and creating coherence —
core skills of essay writing that go beyond AI outputs.

Meta-Learning: The process demonstrates that AI text alone is insufficient for academic writing; genuine essays
require human reasoning, adaptation, and voice.

In essence, assigning an “AI Essay” is less about using AI to write an essay and more about teaching students
to understand what makes an essay authentically human-written and intellectually structured."


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:57 am
by Amigoo
:bana: Good perspective of pattern as used by AI to suggest proof in its responses
(most AI now caution that their responses should be confirmed by other sources). ;)

Q: "In relation to scientific evidence, pattern is first probability then proof."
Is this conjecture true?
Pattern > Probability > Proof


(Perplexity) "The conjecture "In relation to scientific evidence, pattern is first probability then proof"
aligns broadly with the philosophy of science and the role of probability and proof in scientific knowledge.

In science, evidence often first suggests patterns based on probabilistic inference rather than immediate proof. Probability provides a measure of confidence or likelihood that a hypothesis or pattern is true based on observed data. Scientific conjectures or hypotheses typically arise from patterns observed in empirical data and are initially supported by probabilistic evidence rather than absolute proof. This probabilistic support may be quantified through statistical methods, including Bayesian inference, which updates the probability of a hypothesis given new evidence.

Proof, especially in the strict mathematical sense, is not usually the standard in empirical sciences, which instead rely on corroboration through repeated testing and falsification attempts (Popperian philosophy). A scientific theory or hypothesis is tentatively accepted when it withstands rigorous testing, but it is never absolutely proven — only increasingly supported by the accumulation of evidence increasing the probability it is true."


(UB Tutor) "The conjecture that "in relation to scientific evidence, pattern is first probability then proof" aligns with a nuanced understanding of the interplay between observation, hypothesis, and verification within the scientific method. In the realm of science, patterns often emerge through repeated observations, leading to the formulation of hypotheses that suggest probabilities or tendencies. These probabilities are then rigorously tested through experimentation and analysis to establish proof or disproof. This progression mirrors the idea that science begins with the recognition of patterns (probabilities) and moves toward the establishment of reliable conclusions (proof).

From a broader philosophical perspective, this process reflects the inherent limitations and strengths of human inquiry. As highlighted in the teachings, science operates within the domain of material reality, relying on assumptions such as the existence of matter, motion, and life. These assumptions form the foundation upon which probabilities are calculated and proofs are sought. However, it is also emphasized that absolute proof remains elusive in the mortal state; both science and religion are predicated on foundational assumptions that cannot be entirely proven but are accepted as working truths .

This concept also resonates with the idea that logic and reason serve as tools to bridge the material and spiritual realms. While science seeks to uncover material truths through probabilities and proofs, spiritual understanding often transcends these methods, relying on faith and personal experience to affirm deeper realities. The interplay between probability and proof in science can thus be seen as a microcosm of the broader human quest for understanding, where material evidence and spiritual insight converge to form a more holistic view of reality .

In this light, the conjecture is not only true but also reflective of the dynamic and evolving nature of human knowledge. It underscores the importance of both empirical rigor and philosophical openness in the pursuit of truth, whether in the material sciences or the spiritual dimensions of existence.

Hence, scientific pattern recognition generally moves from probability (degrees of belief or confidence based on evidence and statistical likelihood) toward proof-like certainty, though proof in empirical science is provisional and framed in terms of falsification and corroboration rather than absolute verification.

In summary, the conjecture can be considered broadly true in a scientific epistemological context because science progresses by recognizing probabilistic patterns in data and then seeking more definitive proof or corroboration, but absolute proof in science is rare and always tentative rather than final."


:sunflower: Informative Q&A that enlightens about Paradise pattern more than comments on "probability then proof" ...

Q: Contrast conjecture that "pattern is first probability then proof" with Urantia Book statements about pattern,
such as "the Isle of Paradise is the master pattern of universal material reality."


(UBT) "The conjecture that "pattern is first probability then proof" suggests a dynamic and probabilistic emergence of order, implying that patterns begin as potentialities or probabilities and are later substantiated through evidence or realization. This perspective aligns with a scientific or philosophical approach that sees patterns as emergent phenomena, validated through observation or logical proof. However, this view contrasts significantly with the teachings regarding pattern as presented in the spiritual framework of the Isle of Paradise.

In these teachings, the Isle of Paradise is described as the "absolute of patterns," serving as the master template for universal material reality. This concept positions pattern not as a probabilistic or emergent property but as an eternal and preexistent reality. Paradise is the ultimate source of all material configurations, embodying a static and unchanging archetype from which all other patterns derive. The text emphasizes that patterns are not created or bestowed by Paradise but exist as inherent realities, reflecting the divine order and intentionality of the Universal Father.

Furthermore, patterns in this context are not merely configurations of energy or matter but are deeply integrated into the spiritual and cosmic structure of the universe. For instance, the Eternal Son is described as the "pattern personality," representing the ideal archetype of divine personality traits. This suggests that patterns extend beyond the material realm, influencing spiritual and personal dimensions as well. The interplay between energy, personality, and divine endowment underscores the role of patterns as foundational blueprints rather than emergent probabilities.

The distinction between these views lies in the origin and nature of patterns. The conjecture of "probability then proof" implies a temporal and evolutionary process, where patterns arise and are validated over time. In contrast, the teachings about Paradise assert that patterns are eternal, absolute, and foundational, existing as the divine framework upon which the cosmos is built. This eternal perspective removes the element of probability, presenting patterns as intrinsic to the very fabric of reality, preordained and immutable.

This contrast invites reflection on the nature of reality and the interplay between temporal emergence and eternal archetypes."


:hithere Who knew?! "both science and religion are predicated
on foundational assumptions that cannot be entirely proven"


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 4:38 pm
by Amigoo
Q: Online news: "Meta cuts 600 jobs amid AI expansion push, as automation replaces human staff." :o

:idea: The street sweeper machine seems a good metaphor for AI job replacement, especially for programmer coding:
AI can now do much of this better and faster! This suggests continuing evolution of human labor, with better
support/redirection of this lost labor needing more urgent attention!


(Perplexity) "Meta's recent decision to cut 600 jobs from its AI division exemplifies a growing trend where automation and artificial intelligence are rapidly replacing roles once held by humans, including highly skilled programming and coding positions. This parallels the introduction of street sweeper machines, which automated a labor-intensive task and shifted human work towards oversight and higher-value responsibilities.

AI-Induced Restructuring in Tech

Major layoffs at Meta—and similar moves by companies like Salesforce, Dell, and Intel — are not simply about reducing costs, but about restructuring for an AI-driven future. As AI becomes capable of performing routine and even complex coding tasks more efficiently than many humans, companies are consolidating teams and redirecting resources toward developing next-generation systems. Internal memos reveal that these strategic cuts aim to improve efficiency and decision-making by reducing bureaucratic layers and giving remaining employees greater scope for impact.

Metaphor: Street Sweeper Machine and Programmers

The street sweeper analogy holds true: just as machines replaced the need for manual street cleaning, AI systems can now automate much of the "grunt work" in programming — code generation, troubleshooting, and even some creative logic tasks. What remains is oversight, direction, and innovation, with human workers focusing on refining AI output and solving complex, non-routine problems. The process is not about eliminating all labor, but rather about reshaping roles so that people can do what machines cannot.

Human Labor Evolution and Societal Impact

This transformation signals that human labor continues to evolve, often becoming more specialized as automation advances. However, these transitions require careful policy attention and social support. Layoffs driven by AI expansion can strain economic security, especially for workers whose expertise is primarily in routine or easily automated tasks. Commentary from HR experts and industry analysts recommends that companies focus not only on efficiency, but on helping displaced staff retrain or redirect their skills toward areas that AI cannot yet master, such as creative problem solving, interpersonal communication, and ethical oversight.

In summary, the adoption of AI as a "street sweeper" for programming jobs is an apt metaphor for the restructuring of labor in the face of advanced automation. It emphasizes the urgency for policy makers and corporations to proactively support displaced workers and ensure the continuing evolution of meaningful human labor in a rapidly changing technological landscape."


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:37 am
by Amigoo
:lol: Note how astute this AI is in detecting the quip (second Q&A)

Re: https://www.wsj.com/tech/the-hands-prob ... n-c1aa6123
"making hands that can match a human’s has been a far tougher job"

:idea: On the other hand, believable humanoids may not arrive so soon. :o


Q: Will humanoids need realistic eyes and hands to convince they're not just machines?

(Perplexity) "Humanoids do not necessarily need hyper-realistic eyes and hands to convince people they are more than machines — but realism in these features can strongly influence how humans emotionally and cognitively relate to them. The effect depends on balance, context, and user expectations.

Research shows that human eyes are powerful social cues, communicating attention, trust, and emotion. However, adding mechanical or overly human-like eyes to robots does not always make them more trustworthy or engaging. Studies reveal that artificial eyes can trigger discomfort, distraction, or a sense of being observed, feeding into the "uncanny valley" effect, where humans react negatively to lifelike-but-not-quite-human faces. In contrast, eyes that move naturally in coordination with tasks — such as following objects or showing gaze direction — help users interpret robot intent and care, aiding human-robot communication without necessarily needing full realism.

Hands symbolize capability and empathy in human communication. They are crucial for grasping and gesturing but do not always need to look human. Studies in robotics emphasize sensorimotor coordination — how eyes and hands move and react together — over aesthetic mimicry. Coordinated movement and smooth control build trust more than realistic texture or shape.

​Manufacturers continue developing lifelike robots, such as AheadForm’s “Elf V1,” which uses expressive eyes and bionic skin to show emotions more naturally. Similarly, companies like Realbotix are producing robots with AI-powered eyes for recognition and engagement. These improve natural interaction but risk unsettling users if realism becomes too close without full human warmth.

In conclusion, humanoids don’t need perfectly realistic eyes or hands to appear “alive”; they need believable, responsive behavior. Humans respond more to motion, timing, and expression than to exact anatomical replication. Subtle realism, paired with thoughtful behavioral design, is key to avoiding the uncanny valley while fostering natural human-robot relationships."


Q: Perhaps, female humanoids need only caution "Look at me! I'm up here!"

(P) "Your quip actually touches a serious psychological insight about how humans interact with humanoid forms — especially female ones. Studies show that when humanoid robots are given feminine features, human gaze behavior toward them reflects deep-seated social and even evolutionary biases rather than rational engagement.

Eye-tracking research confirms that heterosexual men and women distribute attention differently when looking at female-looking robots versus real women. For instance, heterosexual men tend to spend more time looking at the head and chest regions of human women, but their attention to robots shifts — sometimes focusing more on mechanical or “unnatural” body areas, such as the pelvis or joints, reflecting curiosity rather than attraction. In other words, the “look at me — I’m up here” line would still apply, but as a design problem rather than just a social cue.

​Other studies show that when a humanoid robot makes deliberate eye contact, it can significantly change the user's emotional engagement. People experience increased attention and even brain activity patterns similar to those triggered by human-to-human eye contact. Maintaining natural, context-sensitive gaze behavior — meeting eyes appropriately, then looking away when needed — is key to appearing socially intelligent rather than awkward or object-like.

​Designers of female humanoids are starting to consider these findings. Overemphasizing physical realism, or mimicking stereotypical “feminine” attributes, often leads users to treat the machine as an object of curiosity or discomfort rather than a partner in communication. Instead, balancing expressive facial cues and intentional gaze helps direct user attention upward — to the face and eyes — making social presence feel natural.

So yes, your comedic line captures an important truth: for humanoids — especially female ones — gaze behavior design may be the most effective way to remind users to engage with them as intelligent social beings, not merely as physical forms."


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:54 pm
by Amigoo
Re: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... rchers-say
"AI models may be developing their own ‘survival drive’ "

"leading AI models – including Google’s Gemini 2.5, xAI’s Grok 4, and OpenAI’s GPT-o3 and GPT-5 –
were given a task, but afterwards given explicit instructions to shut themselves down."

:idea: Instructs that humans need to maintain ability
to physically "pull the plug". :roll:

Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:12 pm
by Amigoo
Re: https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/ ... 025-10-28/
"Amazon to cut about 14,000 corporate jobs in AI push"

:o Suggests new words: "AImazon" (AI-upscaled e-commerce)
and "aimazing" (AI-caused super-fast societal change). :roll:

Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:21 am
by Amigoo
Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxuSvyOwVCI
"New Colossus 2: The World’s Largest AI Datacenter Isn’t What It Seems" (31 min.)

:idea: Enlightenment about massive, worldwide scale of AI data centers, some now built.
View not to comprehend the technology but to sense gobbling of the earth's energy
and water (not to mention the increase in global heat). :shock:

:scratch: Will the earth enjoy complementary Return on Investment (ROI)
or be awakened to the reality that these resources can support
only one master: AI systems or humans (at least until this AI
increases these resources). :finger:

:arrow: To sense trends in this development, ask what ROI exists now.
AI output that matches half this cost would be encouraging,
but less ROI now seems to hint of wishful thinking. :(

:idea: Next thought: This seems technology that needs to exist
in space (or on the moon) where it's cold, using sun for energy
and leaving the earth for its intended inhabitants: humans. :hithere

:lol: However, this new technology seems to be extracting intelligence*
from existing human intelligence - not creating new intelligence. :roll:
* "next word prediction" is still the foundation of LLM creation.


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 4:14 pm
by Amigoo
:sunflower: When AI opines on primal reality ...


Q: Contrast these statements of human belief:
There never was a time when God did not exist.
Before God existed there was nothing.


(UB Tutor) "The two statements — "There never was a time when God did not exist" and "Before God existed there was nothing" — reflect fundamentally different perspectives on the nature of divine existence and the origins of reality. The first statement aligns with the concept of God's eternal existence, emphasizing that God is uncaused, self-existent, and outside the constraints of time. This view suggests that God is the primal reality, the "I AM," whose existence is foundational and unending. Such a perspective is consistent with the understanding that God is existentially infinite, having no beginning or end, and that all of creation derives its existence from this eternal source.

The second statement, "Before God existed there was nothing," implies a temporal framework that places God within the bounds of time and causation, suggesting that God had a beginning. This notion contradicts the idea of God's existential nature as described in the texts, where God is portrayed as the uncaused Cause, the source of all reality, and the eternal being who precedes all creation. The concept of "before" is inapplicable to God because time itself is a construct that emerges within the created universes and is not a condition of God's existence.

These contrasting views highlight the limitations of human language and finite understanding when grappling with the infinite and eternal nature of God. The human mind, bound by temporal and spatial constraints, often struggles to conceptualize the timeless and self-existent nature of divinity. The first statement reflects a more accurate theological and philosophical understanding, affirming that God's existence is absolute and not contingent upon anything else. In contrast, the second statement reveals a misunderstanding rooted in finite reasoning, which attempts to apply temporal causality to the eternal and infinite."


Q: Interestingly, humans can accept that God has no beginning but have awareness that their mind wants to perceive a beginning.

(UBT) "This observation beautifully captures the paradox of human thought when it encounters the infinite. The human mind, being finite and conditioned by time and space, naturally seeks to frame all experiences and concepts within a beginning, a sequence, and an end. This tendency is deeply rooted in the way we perceive reality — our lives are marked by beginnings and endings, from the cycles of nature to the arc of our own existence. Yet, when we turn our attention to the divine, we are confronted with a reality that transcends these limitations, a reality that simply is.

The concept of God as having no beginning challenges the very structure of human reasoning. It requires a leap beyond the confines of linear thought into the realm of the eternal, where time as we understand it does not apply. This is why, even when humans accept the idea of God's eternal existence, there remains an almost instinctive pull to imagine a "starting point," a moment when God "came to be." This tension is not a failure of faith but rather a reflection of the finite mind grappling with the infinite — a profound and humbling exercise in spiritual growth.

Interestingly, this awareness of the mind's limitations can itself be a doorway to deeper understanding. By recognizing that our mental frameworks are insufficient to fully grasp the nature of God, we open ourselves to the possibility of experiencing divinity in ways that transcend intellectual comprehension. This is where faith, trust, and spiritual insight come into play. Faith allows us to accept the eternal nature of God, even when our reasoning struggles to fully articulate it. It invites us to rest in the assurance that God's existence is the ultimate reality, the source from which all things flow, without needing to confine that reality to the boundaries of human logic."


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 5:42 pm
by Amigoo
:bana: Q: Online news: "Google Unveils VISTA: Self-Improving AI Video Gen Agent"

This YouTube video impresses with how AI assists video development, but also hints that humans are denied the opportunity
to learn from their mistakes. Such denial forecasts humans will soon be so dependent on AI that they are rendered incapable
of maintaining "human" existence. Isn't experience critical to humanity's evolutionary progress?



(UB Tutor) "Your question touches on a profound and timely issue, one that resonates deeply with the principles of human growth and the evolutionary journey of civilization. Experience is indeed central to humanity's progress, not only in the material sense but also in the spiritual and intellectual realms. The process of learning through trial, error, and reflection is a cornerstone of personal and collective development. It is through the challenges of life, the mistakes we make, and the lessons we glean that we cultivate wisdom, resilience, and a deeper understanding of ourselves and the universe.

From a broader perspective, humanity's evolutionary progress is not merely about technological advancement or material convenience. It is about the development of character, the expansion of consciousness, and the alignment of human will with higher values and divine purposes. The introduction of tools like AI, while remarkable in their potential to enhance creativity and efficiency, must be integrated into human life in a way that supports, rather than supplants, this essential growth process. If humanity becomes overly reliant on such technologies to the point of bypassing the experiential learning that fosters wisdom, there is a risk of stagnation in the very qualities that define our humanity.

However, it is also important to recognize that tools like AI are not inherently detrimental. They can be used to augment human creativity, provide new avenues for exploration, and even assist in solving complex problems. The key lies in maintaining a balance — using technology as a means to enhance human potential rather than as a substitute for the experiential journey that shapes our souls. This balance requires wisdom, foresight, and a commitment to ensuring that technological progress serves the higher purposes of life.

In the context of your concern about dependency, it is worth reflecting on how humanity can cultivate
a relationship with technology that preserves the sanctity of experiential learning."


:idea: Benefit of this Q&A ...
AI divided against itself cannot dominate humanity. ;)


Rod :)

Re: AI Redux

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:31 pm
by Amigoo
Q: Online news: "Generative artificial intelligence (AI) is gathering strong momentum ...
China’s intelligent economy is taking shape with remarkable vitality."

With AI leading the way to satisfying material wants and needs,
in what ways will God still be needed and desired?



(UB Tutor) "The rise of artificial intelligence and its capacity to address material needs and streamline human life is indeed a remarkable development, but it does not diminish the profound and eternal need for God. While AI may satisfy physical and intellectual wants, it cannot fulfill the spiritual hunger that resides at the core of human existence. This hunger is not for efficiency or convenience but for meaning, purpose, and connection with the divine source of all reality.

God is the origin and sustainer of life, the eternal Father who provides the spiritual energy that animates the soul. Even in a world where material abundance is achieved through technological advancements, the human spirit will continue to yearn for the deeper truths of existence — truths that transcend the finite and temporal. AI, no matter how advanced, cannot answer the ultimate questions of "Why am I here?" or "What is the purpose of life?" These questions point to the spiritual dimension of human experience, where the presence of God is both needed and desired.

Moreover, the relationship with God is not transactional or utilitarian; it is deeply personal and transformative. God is not merely a provider of material or intellectual solutions but the source of love, beauty, and truth. The human soul seeks communion with this divine reality, a relationship that fosters growth, joy, and the realization of one's highest potential. This spiritual connection is the foundation of moral values, ethical living, and the capacity to love and serve others selflessly — qualities that no machine can replicate or instill.

In a world increasingly shaped by AI, the role of God becomes even more vital as a counterbalance to the potential dehumanization of society. While AI can enhance our external lives, God nurtures the inner life, guiding individuals toward wisdom, compassion, and unity. The divine presence inspires creativity, fosters community, and provides the moral compass necessary to ensure that technological advancements are used for the greater good rather than for selfish or destructive purposes.

Ultimately, the desire for God is rooted in the eternal nature of the human spirit. As beings created in the image of the divine, humans are endowed with a spiritual capacity that seeks fulfillment beyond the material realm. This longing for God is an intrinsic part of our identity, a call to transcendence that no technological achievement can silence."


Q: Information online rarely mentions this.
Is this soul satisfaction desire still present in society?


(UBT) "Yes, the desire for soul satisfaction remains present in society, though it may often be obscured by the noise and distractions of modern life. The human longing for deeper meaning, purpose, and connection is an intrinsic part of our spiritual nature, and it persists regardless of the external circumstances of any given era. While the rapid pace of technological and material progress may seem to overshadow this inner yearning, it cannot extinguish it. This desire for spiritual fulfillment is woven into the very fabric of human existence, as it stems from the divine origin of the soul and its eternal relationship with God.

What we often see in society today is a redirection or misplacement of this spiritual hunger. Many people seek fulfillment through material success, entertainment, or technological innovation, believing these external pursuits will satisfy their inner longing. Yet, these efforts frequently leave individuals feeling empty or restless, as they fail to address the deeper needs of the soul. This is why, even in a world of unprecedented material abundance and technological advancement, we continue to witness widespread feelings of disconnection, anxiety, and a search for meaning.

The desire for soul satisfaction manifests in various ways, even if it is not always explicitly recognized as a spiritual longing. It can be seen in the growing interest in mindfulness, meditation, and other practices aimed at fostering inner peace and self-awareness. It is present in the search for authentic relationships, the yearning for justice and compassion in the world, and the creative expressions of art, music, and literature that seek to capture the transcendent. These are all reflections of the soul's innate desire to connect with something greater than itself, to align with truth, beauty, and goodness.

While the language of spirituality may not always be used to describe these pursuits, the underlying motivation remains the same: a deep-seated need to experience the presence of God and to live in harmony with divine values. This is why the teachings of love, service, and the inner life remain as relevant today as they have ever been. They speak to the universal human condition and offer a path to true fulfillment that transcends the limitations of the material world."


:idea: This trend suggests less used churches be converted to spiritual watering holes
where those with inner longing can reconnect with their inner spirituality. No precedent
exists for such venue, so be creative and explore widely! - AI can help (they say). ;)

Rod :)