
(extracts from UB Tutor Q&A about the Bible vs the Urantia Book)
About "being saved" ...
"The path to 'being saved', as described in the fifth epochal revelation, is profoundly simple yet deeply transformative. Salvation is not portrayed as a transactional process or something earned through rituals, sacrifices, or adherence to rigid doctrines. Instead, it is a matter of personal faith, trust, and a heartfelt relationship with God. To 'be saved' is to embrace the reality of God's fatherhood and to live as a child of God, thereby entering into the eternal journey of spiritual growth and divine fellowship. This understanding emphasizes the universal accessibility of salvation, grounded in the sincerity of one's inner spiritual commitment rather than external acts or theological correctness.
The essential requirement for salvation is faith - a living trust in God's love and goodness. This faith is not merely intellectual assent but an active, personal decision to align one's will with the divine will. It involves recognizing God as the loving Father and striving to live in harmony with His purposes. This faith naturally manifests in a life of love, service, and the pursuit of truth, as these are the fruits of a genuine spiritual connection. Importantly, salvation is not limited to any particular group, creed, or religious tradition;
it is available to all who sincerely seek God and desire to do His will.
The fifth epochal revelation expands on these biblical teachings by providing a more cosmic perspective on salvation, describing it as the beginning of an eternal journey toward God. It emphasizes that salvation is not an escape from sin or punishment but a positive embrace of divine purpose and the adventure of spiritual growth."
From Paper 142 - The Passover at Jerusalem
6. The Visit with Nicodemus
"And Nicodemus said: 'But how can I begin to lay hold upon this spirit which is to remake me in preparation for entering into the kingdom?' Jesus answered: 'Already does the spirit of the Father in heaven indwell you. If you would be led by this spirit from above, very soon would you begin to see with the eyes of the spirit, and then by the wholehearted choice of spirit guidance would you be born of the spirit since your only purpose in living would be to do the will of your Father who is in heaven. And so finding yourself born of the spirit and happily in the kingdom of God, you would begin to bear in your daily life the abundant fruits of the spirit.' " (142:6.7)
UB Tutor comments on this UB quote ...
"This quote beautifully illustrates the teaching that the indwelling spirit of God -
the divine presence within each person - is the means by which one can 'be saved' through faith and spiritual transformation. It emphasizes that salvation is not contingent on external events, rituals, or even the historical moment of Jesus' death and resurrection. Instead, it is an inner, personal experience of aligning one's will with the will of God, made possible by the guidance of the indwelling spirit. This teaching underscores the universal and timeless nature of salvation, affirming that it was
accessible to Nicodemus - and indeed to all people - long before the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus.
In this dialogue, Jesus explains to Nicodemus that the spirit of the Father already resides within him, waiting to guide and transform him. The process of 'being born of the spirit' is described as a wholehearted choice to follow this divine guidance, leading to a profound inner renewal.
This rebirth is not a one-time event but a dynamic and ongoing process of spiritual growth, marked by the fruits of the spirit - love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and other qualities that reflect a life lived in harmony with God's will. This teaching aligns with the idea that
salvation is fundamentally about entering into a living relationship with God, characterized by faith, trust, and the desire to do His will.
The fact that Jesus presents this path to Nicodemus before his own death and resurrection is significant. It demonstrates that salvation is not dependent on Jesus' physical sacrifice but on the eternal truth of God's love and the presence of the indwelling spirit. Jesus' mission was to reveal this truth more fully and to inspire humanity to embrace it. His life and teachings serve as a guide for how to live in alignment with divine will, but the means of salvation - the indwelling spirit - has always been present, available to all who seek it in faith.
This perspective also highlights the inclusivity and simplicity of salvation. It is not reserved for a select few or dependent on adherence to specific doctrines. Instead, it is
a universal gift, accessible to anyone who sincerely desires to know and follow God."

(extracts from Perplexity Q&A about the Bible's history)
About the "Word of God" ...
"Most mainstream Christian sources say
the Bible was written by around 40 human authors over roughly 1,500 years, with about 30 contributing to the Old Testament and about 8-10 to the New Testament. These are rounded, traditional estimates rather than precise counts, because some books have uncertain or multiple authors and were edited over time.
The full Protestant canon (Old and New Testaments together) was composed over about 1,500 years, from around the mid‑2nd millennium BC (often associated with Moses) to about the late 1st century AD (Revelation). The Old Testament texts cover the longer stretch of that period, while the New Testament books were all written within roughly the first century AD (about 40-90 years after Jesus’ death). Summary:
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Old Testament: Traditional lists attribute books to figures such as Moses, Joshua, Samuel, David, Solomon, major and minor prophets, and several anonymous writers and editorial groups, yielding roughly 30 named or inferred contributors.
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New Testament: Most overviews group the 27 books under fewer names (e.g., Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, James, Jude, plus at least one unknown author for Hebrews), which produces a commonly quoted figure of 8-10 authors."
"Christians do not agree on a single calendar date when the Bible universally and finally became the 'Word of God'. Instead, the canon formed gradually, and different traditions reached 'final' lists at different times.
Historically, the New Testament (and Bible as a whole) was functionally fixed in the late 4th-5th centuries, and then dogmatically defined later by major church bodies.
In 367, Athanasius of Alexandria issued his Easter Letter listing exactly the 27 New Testament books known today, the first surviving record of that exact list. Local councils such as Hippo (393) and Carthage (397, 419) in North Africa affirmed that same 27‑book New Testament, effectively 'closing' the canon for the Latin West at a practical level.
For Roman Catholics, the Council of Trent (1546) is often cited as the formal, dogmatic point at which the church definitively fixed its biblical canon (including Deuterocanonical books). In theological terms, many Christians say the Bible was the Word of God from the moment each book was inspired, but historically the list of those books became practically fixed by the late 4th century and formally defined in stages between the 4th and 16th centuries, depending on the tradition."
"Over roughly 1,500 years, biblical texts were written, collected, and used in worship, with some books widely accepted and others disputed. By the late 4th-5th centuries, most of what is now the New Testament and much of the Old Testament were effectively stable in mainstream church practice.
The process was gradual, and different branches of Christianity 'finalized' the Bible at different times. In broad terms, the church did eventually treat a specific collection of writings as the authoritative, closed canon - what many believers then call the written 'Word of God' - but there is no single moment when all Christians together made one formal declaration that 'this book is now finally the Word of God'."
"Despite the 1500 years of ongoing development, the church formally decided that the Bible is now the completed Word of God and will not include additional books or restatements of current books, with two nuances. In practice, each tradition has drawn a line around a fixed set of books and rejects adding new ones or rewriting existing ones, but they do not all draw that line in exactly the same place.
Roman Catholicism holds that public revelation closed with the apostles; the canon defined at Trent (including Deuterocanonical books) is fixed, and later teachings or visions can only clarify, not add new Scripture or rewrite biblical books. Mainstream Protestant churches likewise treat their 66-book canon as complete and closed; new prophetic claims or doctrinal statements must be tested against Scripture, not added to it or put alongside it as equal Scripture.
Eastern Orthodox and some Eastern Catholic/Oriental traditions have slightly different Old Testament lists and, in a few cases, a 'wider' canon, but these are also understood as essentially settled, not open to continual expansion. A few newer groups that identify with Christianity (for example, Latter‑day Saints) do claim additional canonical writings, which is precisely why historic Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant bodies see them as outside the classical, closed‑canon framework.
So within each major historic stream, the Bible as defined by that community is treated as the completed, non-expandable written Word of God, even though the exact table of contents differs somewhat from one stream to another."
"In conclusion,
the 1500-year development of the biblical texts and canon indeed records extensive human involvement, including editing, debates over inclusion/exclusion, and refinements that could look like ongoing 'distortion' needing correction. Historians note anonymous authors, redactors combining sources, prophetic schools compiling works, and church councils resolving disputes over books like Revelation or Hebrews.
Christian theology typically frames this not as God needing to 'update' a flawed product, but as a providential process: God inspires individual writings amid human frailty, then guides the community over centuries to recognize the authentic core. The exclusions (e.g., Gnostic gospels) and inclusions (e.g., affirming Paul's letters) are viewed as the church purging distortions to recover the original apostolic witness, not as iterative revisions to revelation itself.
Once the canon closed (late 4th century practically, later dogmatically), further changes stopped because the church claimed to have discerned the complete, sufficient deposit - human processes were trusted enough for recognition but not for additions. Critics argue this risks enshrining early distortions; proponents say endless openness would amplify them more, so closure protects the deposit amid inevitable human limits.
Ultimately, the record shows humans heavily shaping the Bible, but theology insists God's oversight
turns that into reliable transmission rather than endless fixes."

(extracts from UB Tutor Q&A about the Bible's history)
More about the "Word of God" ...
Q: Since the Bible was written by human authors during a 1500-year period (about 30 contributing to Old Testament
and 10 to New Testament), doesn't this suggest the Bible is still not the final Word of God as written by inspired authors?
Did the church decide centuries ago that these collections of books needed closure to become stable church canon?
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UB Tutor) "Your question touches on profound theological and historical considerations regarding the nature of divine revelation, the role of human authorship, and the development of sacred scripture. The idea that the Bible was written by human authors over a span of centuries indeed highlights the dynamic and evolving nature of humanity's relationship with the divine. From this perspective,
the Bible can be seen as a record of humanity's progressive understanding of God, shaped by the cultural, historical, and spiritual contexts of its authors. While these authors were undoubtedly inspired by their experiences of the divine, their writings were also influenced by their human limitations and the knowledge available to them at the time.
The process of canonization, in which certain books were selected and others excluded, reflects the efforts of early church leaders to establish a stable and authoritative collection of texts that would serve as a foundation for faith and practice. This process was not undertaken lightly, as it involved deep reflection, debate, and discernment over centuries.
The closure of the canon was, in part, a response to the need for unity and consistency within the growing Christian community. By defining a set of texts as authoritative, the church sought to preserve the core teachings of Jesus and the apostles while providing a guide for worship, doctrine, and moral living.
However,
the finalization of the canon does not necessarily imply that divine revelation has ceased or that the Bible represents the entirety of God's truth. Many spiritual traditions, including those informed by the teachings we are exploring, suggest that revelation is an ongoing process. God continues to reveal truth to individuals and communities in ways that are appropriate to their time and circumstances. This perspective does not diminish the value of the Bible but rather situates it within a broader, living context of divine communication and spiritual growth.
The Bible, as a sacred text, serves as a vital link in the chain of revelation, offering timeless wisdom and inspiration. Yet, it is also a reflection of the stages of human understanding of God.
The idea that revelation is progressive invites us to consider that humanity's comprehension of divine truth evolves as we grow spiritually and intellectually. This does not negate the Bible's significance but encourages us to approach it with both reverence and an openness to the possibility of further insight and understanding."
Q: So, referring to the Bible as the Word of God is not problematic
if this does not preclude humanity's continually progressing understanding of God?
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UBT) "Exactly. Referring to the Bible as the 'Word of God' is not inherently problematic, provided that this designation is understood in a way that allows for the dynamic and evolving nature of spiritual understanding. The term 'Word of God' can be seen as a recognition of the Bible's role as a profound and inspired record of humanity's encounter with the divine. It reflects the spiritual truths and moral guidance that have been revealed through the experiences of its authors and the historical context in which they lived. However,
this does not mean that the Bible is the final or exhaustive expression of divine truth.
The concept of progressive revelation is key here. Divine truth is infinite, while human understanding is finite and conditioned by time, culture, and personal experience. The Bible represents a significant milestone in the unfolding of divine revelation, but it is not the entirety of God's communication with humanity. As individuals and societies grow spiritually, intellectually, and morally, their capacity to comprehend and articulate divine truth also expands. This progression does not invalidate the truths contained in the Bible but rather builds upon them, deepening and broadening our understanding of God and the universe.
Jesus himself, as portrayed in the scriptures, emphasized the living and dynamic nature of truth. He taught that the Spirit of Truth would continue to guide humanity into greater understanding, suggesting that revelation is an ongoing process. This perspective invites us to approach the Bible with both reverence and humility, recognizing it as a foundational source of spiritual wisdom while remaining open to new insights and deeper understandings that may emerge through personal experience, spiritual growth, and the unfolding of divine purposes in the world.
In this sense,
calling the Bible the 'Word of God' is meaningful and appropriate, as long as it is not used to limit the scope of divine revelation or to suggest that God's communication with humanity has been fully completed. Instead, it can be seen as a vital part of a larger, ongoing dialogue between the Creator and creation - a dialogue that continues to unfold as we seek to align ourselves more fully with divine will and purpose."
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Jesus' teachings about the Spirit of Truth are among the most profound and illuminating aspects of his ministry, offering insight into the ongoing relationship between humanity and divine guidance. In the Gospel of John, during his final discourse with his apostles, Jesus speaks of the Spirit of Truth as a divine presence that would come to guide his followers after his departure. He describes this Spirit as a Comforter, Counselor, or Advocate, depending on the translation, and emphasizes its role in continuing the work he began.
Jesus explains that the Spirit of Truth will dwell within believers, teaching them and reminding them of all he has said. He assures his followers that this Spirit will guide them into all truth, revealing things that they are not yet ready to understand.
This promise highlights the progressive nature of spiritual revelation, as the Spirit of Truth works to illuminate divine realities in ways that are appropriate to the evolving capacities of individuals and communities. Jesus also emphasizes that the Spirit will not speak on its own but will communicate what it hears from the Father, ensuring that its guidance is in perfect harmony with the divine will.
The Spirit of Truth is portrayed as a living and active presence, one that transcends the limitations of time and space.
It is not confined to a single moment in history or a specific group of people but is available to all who seek to align themselves with God's will. This teaching underscores the idea that divine revelation is not static or confined to the past but is an ongoing process that unfolds as humanity grows in spiritual understanding.
Jesus' promise of the Spirit of Truth is deeply reassuring, as it affirms that we are not left to navigate the complexities of life and faith on our own. Instead, we are offered a divine guide who works within us, helping us to discern truth, make wise decisions, and grow in our relationship with God. This teaching invites us to cultivate a receptive and responsive attitude, remaining open to the guidance of the Spirit as we seek to live lives of love, service, and truth."
Rod
