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Perhaps it is something I can not reason at this time. I still have to read paper 112. I am moving slow this morning, but I am most definitely enjoying my homemade cold brew. :viking: Why is there no cowboy emoji? I need my Texas sombrero. Just as paper 37 shows us there are different orders of being, some free form an ascension plan and some not born of spirit- there are realities I can not comprehend. While I reserve my own beliefs towards animals, and will let God sort out my understanding, I continue to read the UB- even if I find myself in rebellion against some of the teachings. I feel the midwayer friends may chuckle at this with endearment. So too the Father God understands my Heart towards the matter. And perhaps, in time, these things will better reveal themselves to me. So perhaps animals are a part of the incomprehensible reality, and all that needs to be understood is that every creature is somehow part of the eternal loving service. In all ways, Love, as service.

My girl dog, Juno, loves me very much. She looks in to my soul, and she acknowledges that God given fragment. Because of this, I believe she is well aware of something we strive to understand, and may be gifted something of her own, after her temporary service as Juno. Interesting to me, as I work with Casey Claar of the galactic travel channel... I have canine energies in "galactic consciousness" who protect and guide me. I have seen them both first hand and filtered through Casey's crystal mediums. An ET has even chosen the form of dalmatian puppy in one of our first attempts at contact. But I think this was because I could not possibly comprehend witnessing the ET in its true form. I was told I was not ready. However, the symbol is important- as there is a dual purpose, a multidimensional language that takes place during these moments of contact.

Perhaps there are indeed material beings, more advanced than the human race, who have a "canine" aspect to them. Well, just a thought. If anything, the UB also shows us how vast and diverse Life is- the book itself mentioning there are too many forms to acknowledge in the book alone.

But, to conclude- as I shift now towards Paper 112... What matters, clearly, is Love and to recognize all aspects of life as Love in Service.

~~~~I wish you and our Beloved friends here a beautiful and happy Friday. :loves
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Eric, I also rebelled a bit... ;) :D
For instance, dogs are better at unconditional love and forgiveness than humans are. Why would a little being that carries so much love be lost with death when love is the currency of the universe?
What was the name of the Tom Hanks movie where the dog came back repeatedly as a new dog, but still had its memories and personality?
That hit a chord with me...
A weird thing happened while I was living in Australia years ago. I was walking along the path by the lake, and a golden retriever came running up to me. That in itself wasn't unusual. I've petted many dogs on that walk. But this time I had a moment of soul recognition and said without thinking, "There you are!" The owner was about 20 feet behind, and she looked at me strangely and said, "He never does that." I never saw them again, but the experience has stayed with me. Maybe someday I will understand more.
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Sandy, perfectly stated. And I understand it plainly reading your words. Love recognizing love. Love known, and reunited. What an amazing experience, definitely.

And I believe it a gift.

I came here to share with you guys that I am meditating with a friend in the zoom room around 5pm CST this upcoming Friday. I would like you guys to join, if you're able. I invited her to hang around afterwards and thought we could discuss some of the Urantia Book. I hope this week to go back a few pages prior and read Paper 105 and 107.

I still need to finish paper 112, but all of these pages seem to belong together I'm sure our hearts will find something worth sharing.
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Hello family!

Well said. I believe in due time everything will come clearer. It is indeed the purpose of all existence to become spiritual. So even if it is not right now (not even in close now), there will become a time where even rocks will be spiritual.

In any case, to wonder and ponder about this things can arise other insights that become the stones of our spiritual growth.

It is ok to think otherwise. Whether we are or not mistaken, it is what free will is about. What's written in the UB is not about to go as the last saying, nor that it doesn't sustain criticism. By all means, go and have fun having your own experiences and thoughts. I believe that some parts of the UB are there to inspire us to do additional research on our own.

This book is rather different than others on spiritual growth, and to some that is very much appealing. It is not about deceiving your self with delusional stuff you read. Just go and check if it, as Eric says, resonates within. Somethings might, others might not. I'm not against nor defending the UB, the book can almost do that itself.

If this life is different for each one of us, and perception and self resonating truths are what it should be, then the truth might have many faces and layers. We are not (and I believe this is an undeniable truth) capable of having the whole Truth as it stands right now. This shouldn't prevent anyone from seeking, because valuable experiences, exchanges and self growth, becomes your own gains.


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Beautifully said Oscar. I am grateful for your reply.

I recently had an experience that made me question what happened, since the UB says this in paper 112:
--"The observer cannot be the thing observed; evaluation demands some degree of transcendence of the thing which is evaluated."

A woman who has revealed herself as a blue angel has allowed for something different. I felt there was no distance between the object I was observing, and what was happening to it was also happening in me. It happened in a brief moment, kind of like an out of body experience.

As if the observer was the thing observed. So, maybe I am taking things out of context. Maybe this quote by the solitary messenger of Orvonton is only an example, a way to give reference/understanding.

But in questioning the nature of reality... What is it that is actually being observed- and is there any real distance between you and it? Are you and it so separate after all?

...Hmm
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:D

It's been a while now since I dropped by. Hello everyone, I hope you're doing very nice and well. If you're on the downs, remember, there is always hope. Just ask and listen for the answers.

Regarding of your statement Eric, I was wondering a little while back about it. We are all one an the same. This is actually why that hurt another is like shooting oneself in the foot. But there's some sort of catch there, according to paper 112: "The observer cannot be the thing observed; evaluation demands some degree of transcendence of the thing which is evaluated." I could flood the post with several stories I found around, but I'll keep it short:

1. LSS (Long Story Short): This woman was kidnapped after some normal circumstances (it could happen to anyone). She was being hit by her two aggressors, and in one of those punches she became unconscious and had an OBE (out of body experience). She kept seeing how was she going to be abused, but she didn't feel any pain, nor worried, nor sadness, not even being upset of some kind. She saw her own body, but not as herself somehow. She saw her aggressors as she sees little kids fighting over a game. But then she said to herself that "that can't be good. How can I change this?" And I'm paraphrasing, then as a rush of info being connected to a source, the way become clear. She went back on her body and started saying out loud: "Forgive them because they do not know what they're doing", over and over. They (after they started paying attention to what was she saying), stopped and left.

2. Deepak Chopra took part in Dr. Mayim Bialik's podcast (yes The Big Bang Theory co-star, and yes I'm a fan of the show, maybe because of the way my brain works, or who knows). At the end of the podcast, which they laugh several times entirely, Deepak ask Mayim and her cohost if they had a good time as an experiment. They obviously said "Yes." He then again says that he will be asking again, but they can only answer (the answer they already know), when he signals them. They stayed expectant of the signal several seconds, before answering "Yes.". They felt their own consciousness in this manner.

Here it is that part of the youtube podcast https://youtu.be/X9TbJWb8k2Y?t=3168.

What I just stated is not meant to be an absolute truth, but you can try it out yourself. I believe as personal opinion, that we are all connected. But to observe, and evaluate ourselves, that is beyond what we think, feel, and kind of, know what we are. To clear all the noise for me is very challenging, but when you do, it seems at some point that everything that makes us human (see, hear, taste, feel, and even think), is not what we really are. We are kind of beyond these well made existence. Then again, it is just my personal and humble opinion.

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